Legislature(1993 - 1994)

01/18/1994 03:10 PM Senate O&G

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              SENATE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON OIL & GAS                            
                        January 18, 1994                                       
                           3:10 P.M.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Loren Leman, Chairman                                                 
 Senator Rick Halford                                                          
 Senator Bert Sharp                                                            
 Senator Judith Salo                                                           
 Senator Al Adams                                                              
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 None                                                                          
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 150(FIN) am                                            
 "An Act relating to the exploration and production of oil and                 
 gas and related hydrocarbons, to oil and gas exploration                      
 licenses and to oil and gas leases in certain areas of the                    
 state, and to the proof of financial responsibility required                  
 for the operation of facilities for the production of crude                   
 oil and associated hydrocarbons and facilities for exploration                
 for oil and gas and related hydrocarbons; and extending the                   
 period in which a sale on the five-year oil and gas lease sale                
 schedule may be delayed; and providing for an effective date."                
 (This bill is being held in the Senate Secretary's Office.                    
 The Committee intends to prepare an amendment and amend the                   
 bill on the floor of the Senate.)                                             
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
 SB 150 - See Oil & Gas minutes dated 3/16/93, 3/23/93, 4/1/93,                
 4/8/93, and 4/13/93.                                                          
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
 Ken Boyd, Deputy Director                                                     
 Division of Oil and Gas                                                       
 Department of Natural Resources                                               
 P.O. Box 107034                                                               
 Anchorage, Ak. 99510-0734                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Commented on SB 150.                                   
                                                                               
 Tom Lohman                                                                    
 P.O. Box 69                                                                   
 Barrow, Ak. 99723                                                             
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Commented on SB 150.                                   
                                                                               
 Cliff Burglin                                                                 
 P.O. Box 131                                                                  
 Fairbanks, Ak. 99707                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed SB 150.                                        
                                                                               
 George Findling, Manager                                                      
 Government and Public Relations                                               
 Arco                                                                          
 134 N. Franklin                                                               
 Juneau, Alaska 99801                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Commented on SB 150.                                   
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-1, SIDE A                                                             
 Number 001                                                                    
 SENATOR LEMAN called the Special Committee on Oil and Gas                     
 meeting to order at 3:10 p.m. and said that this would be a                   
 work session on  SB 150  (OIL & GAS EXPLORATION LICENSES/LEASES)              
 which was being held in the Senate Secretary's pending file.                  
                                                                               
 KEN BOYD, Deputy Director, Division of Oil and Gas, briefed                   
 the committee on proposed changes which had been agreed upon                  
 during the interim.  He said he would refer to the compromise                 
 document as the October 25th Draft.                                           
                                                                               
 Two important points he made are that exploration licensing                   
 is not a replacement for the five-year oil and gas leasing                    
 program.  The reason they added the exploration program is                    
 that it is a means to dispose of some lands in basins that                    
 people weren't coming to the table with under the five-year                   
 program.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Since the five-year program works very well in certain areas                  
 of the North Slope and Cook Inlet, they have excluded those                   
 areas from exploration licensing.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 118                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BOYD showed the Committee on a map which specific areas                   
 were excluded - North of the Umiat Baseline and areas that are                
 coming up for lease under the five-year leasing schedule.  He                 
 said this would apply to any off-shore areas as well.  Other                  
 lands excluded are in a portion of the Cook Inlet area.                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN LEMAN asked if it was the intent to exclude that                     
 portion of the coastal plain above the Umiat Base Line as                     
 indicated on the map.  MR. BOYD said they wanted to keep the                  
 foothills open, because of their underexplored nature, but                    
 wanted to keep off the Colville Delta.  It was their intent                   
 to cover it from side to side.                                                
                                                                               
 MR. BOYD said they left out "insufficient or undocumented                     
 geophysical information" because it might confuse the clear                   
 boundaries the state had indicated.                                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS asked if this legislation was after that type                   
 of land to be explored?  MR. BOYD answered yes, but the                       
 October 25 Draft by geographic definition excludes lands for                  
 which information is already known.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 254                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. BOYD said the original bill contained no relinquishment                   
 provision.  They added one because when a company selects any                 
 area for licensing, it is very unlikely to pick the boundaries                
 of an oil field.  As they move through the exploration phase                  
 of their licensed area, certain areas would be determined by                  
 them to not be desirable.  The state determined they should                   
 be able to relicense that land or give someone else the                       
 opportunity to have it.                                                       
                                                                               
 In the October 25 Draft, the company has to do 25% of the work                
 commitment in the first 4 years or lose its license.  If 50%                  
 of the work is accomplished in the first 4 years, there is no                 
 relinquishment.  But half of the money is put into the ground                 
 in the first 4 years.  If the work is something in between,                   
 relinquishment is followed by 25% and 10% of the remaining                    
 acreage each year thereafter.  The maximum relinquishment is                  
 50%.                                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 326                                                                    
                                                                               
 Bonding was another top issue, MR. BOYD said.  In the original                
 bill, bonding was for the total commitment and the explorer                   
 forfeited anything not accomplished.  In committee they                       
 decided on an annual bond based on the year's work commitment.                
 The bond formula takes the amount of the commitment - for                     
 example $50 million in a 10-year license minutes the amount                   
 of work accomplished, zero for first year, and divide the                     
 number of years into that sum and the bond for the first year                 
 is $5 million.  If $5 million worth of work is done in the                    
 first year, subtract that from the $50 million and divide that                
 by the number of years left -9- which is $5 million for the                   
 next year, etc.                                                               
                                                                               
 MR. BOYD said the bond formula is important and fair.  It                     
 gives the smaller companies an opportunity to play - not to                   
 necessarily compete on an equal basis with the largest                        
 companies in the world.  If you don't have responsibility                     
 through bonding, the bidding won't be right, because you could                
 just bid any large number and win.                                            
                                                                               
 MR. BOYD said that all companies agreed to a sealed bid.                      
                                                                               
 Number 419                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS noted that he would like to see debate on the                   
 bonding issue so that it is clearly understood.                               
                                                                               
 MR. BOYD pointed out that they wanted to make sure that                       
 overhead was not included as one of the allowable expenses.                   
                                                                               
 Number 482                                                                    
                                                                               
 On acreage chargeability he said there was a lot of discussion                
 on the 3 by 3 mile squares, but the companies all agreed this                 
 was the best size.  The October 25 Draft says that licenses                   
 are not less than 20,000 nor more than 500,000 acres, because                 
 there was a bit of fear that people would misuse the program.                 
 He said that the parcels had to be big enough to do a best                    
 interests finding.  He was afraid the Commissioner would be                   
 inundated with small requests that he would have to deny.                     
                                                                               
 Number 527                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO asked if the $3 per acre annual rental rate was                  
 a deal.  MR. BOYD answered that they didn't make much money                   
 from rent.  What they want to do is get people out exploring                  
 new land and making discoveries.                                              
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-1, SIDE B                                                             
 Number 582                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN thanked Mr. Boyd for his presentation and said                  
 that was what he intended for this work session.  He asked if                 
 there were questions or comments.                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR ADAMS said his concern was with the language on page                  
 2, lines 23 - 24.  He also commented that he preferred the                    
 October 25th Draft.                                                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD suggested that the Committee draft an                         
 amendment to SB 150 to be offered on the floor of the Senate.                 
                                                                               
 Number 515                                                                    
                                                                               
 GEORGE FINDLING, ARCO, supported the October 25 Draft as a                    
 strong frontier licensing bill.  He pointed out that it helped                
 create an even playing field among the bidders.  The bonding                  
 formulation strikes a balance that's appropriate among a                      
 variety of interests and provides equal financial footing -                   
 a "level playing field" because it provides solid protection                  
 for the state's interest.  Leases are achieved only after the                 
 entire work commitment is complete which minimizes the chance                 
 of speculation.  The bonding and relinquishment together                      
 provide incentives to get the work done early and                             
 expeditiously.  The bonding allows the licensee the maximum                   
 flexibility to pursue the work program that makes sense to                    
 them.  The licensing supplements dovetail into the proven                     
 state leasing system which provides the licensee with a fair                  
 amount of certainty as to how the process is going to work                    
 after the license is completed.  The winning bid in any                       
 competition that's sealed is likely to be based upon the                      
 objective standards of total amount bid.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 470                                                                    
                                                                               
 TOM LOHMAN, Barrow, asked how this program worked with the                    
 coastal zone management program and how would the licenses be                 
 subject to coastal management review.                                         
                                                                               
 MR. BOYD answered that everything available under Title 38 has                
 the same terms and conditions.  All the public processes under                
 the 5 year program are available under exploration licensing.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
 MR. CLIFF BURGLIN, Fairbanks, said this bill should never see                 
 the light of day.  He said this bill ties up all the state's                  
 best potential oil and gas lands.  The companies that like the                
 bill are laying off thousands of people and taking their money                
 overseas.  He said the bonding was too high.  He said Alaska                  
 has goofy regulations.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 353                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN thanked everyone for their comments and said the                
 Committee would prepare an amendment.  He adjourned the                       
 meeting at 4:18 p.m.                                                          
                                                                               

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